From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun May 5 18:58:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (12-253-177-2.client.attbi.com [12.253.177.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4A637B403 for ; Sun, 5 May 2002 18:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.22.42.2] (peace.hippie.lan [172.22.42.2]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g461wpG47925 for ; Sun, 5 May 2002 19:58:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 19:58:55 -0600 Subject: Re: what causes a userland to stop, but allows kernel to continue ? From: Ian To: freebsd-hackers Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020505184056.J57177-100000@patrocles.silby.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> So, based on a previous thread, it looks like I have a server whose >> userland halted, essentially, but the kernel continued running. > > My guess would be that userland apps are not necessarily stopped, but > perhaps a few processes are somehow locking out all others. > > I think the best way to determine what is happening is for you to compile > DDB into your kernel, then break into during the next pseudo-lockup > incident to see if you can determine what is going on. > > Mike "Silby" Silbersack > "break into" how? He said the local console keyboard was totally unresponsive and you can't ssh in. If hitting the capslock key doesn't cause the corresponding LED to toggle, doesn't that imply that the keyboard interupts aren't getting handled? It's times like this when it's handy that old Macs had a physical button on front to create an NMI to get you into the debugger. -- Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message