From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 10:48:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D5316A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:48:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C410243D39 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:48:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j1CAmKj31401 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:48:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:48:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <295532666.20050212113330@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:48:18 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 2:34 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as > > > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > > Why is this a problem? Are you concerned with what our stockholders > > would say if they found out? > > I'm concerned about the future of the OS if the user base dwindles. > Apple Computer company lived for a long time there because they figured out one of the secrets - it's not necessary to have all the customers, it's only necessary that all of the customers you do have, pay you a lot of money. FreeBSD doesen't need every single computer user. We only need the ones that are useful ones. And criteria for a user being a desirable one is pretty easy, they need to put more into the project than they take out. Thus when a user that is new to FreeBSD first starts using it, they will need support and hand-holding from the mailing lists and Usenet newsgroups. As long as a few years later when they have come up to speed, they then turn around and volunteer their time on these same forums to help others into the boat, we are going to survive and thrive. The same goes with developers - the technical mailing lists have many questions from developers experienced with coding but new to FreeBSD, who ask questions. If these people come back and contribute some code to the project, then that's what we need. Even I take time out now and then from arguing with you to answer a few questions. ;-) What we don't want are a lot of the kinds of users that infest the Linx forums - people that pester, pester, pester for answers to questions in the manual, then once they figure out how to get what small item they want to work, they are never seen or heard from in those groups again. Ted