From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Oct 22 20:06:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A468C1C70E for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F182A15 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from vz-proxy-l001.mx.aol.com ([64.236.82.153]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0OFG00A7JQDHDP10@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 14:05:46 -0500 (CDT) X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=daDw5Tfe c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=FJ1kTJ0/xm5uTekQe8vMdQ==:117 a=CH0kA5CcgfcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=d5AII-DLAAAA:8 a=MaEM6F9r0T-F430gE-AA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=-FGs326eAAAA:8 a=UsOker2bMwfZmWx0F-MA:9 a=zHX7_wfSGJjDBTe8:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Received: by 98.109.23.98 with SMTP id 1d850989; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 19:05:46 GMT Subject: Re: Re: misc/jive deleted To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> From: "Mikhail T." Message-id: <14ff8102-d360-507e-a03b-2ed07b4a5823@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:05:40 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 In-reply-to: <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:06:24 -0000 On 22.10.2016 05:27, Mark Linimon wrote: > disclaimer: I wasn't the person who made the decision. You are too humble, Mark. Whoever actually did it, would not have gone ahead if you objected. > The "pro" removal points: some of these terms are no longer acceptable > in polite society, and far cross the line from humor to offensive. > If FreeBSD is trying to be more inclusive, having this around isn't > the way. That begs the question, does not it? Is FreeBSD "trying to be more inclusive"? Is this -- being more inclusive (whatever that means) -- even a valid goal for a technical project? We aren't curing the world's ills nor aiming for a "greater justice" here -- we are simply building the best Operating System. A long as a port keeps building/packaging, it should remain available. Please, put it back if only to honor this sentiment: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/01/defend-say/ Thanks, -mi