From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Sat Mar 24 18:38:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E0AF64313 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC15D791C4 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6353AEF2; Sat, 24 Mar 2018 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Jamie Landeg-Jones Subject: Re: Same host or different? How can you tell "over the wire"? In-Reply-To: <201803241747.w2OHlupR069759@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 11:38:05 -0700 Message-ID: <22999.1521916685@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:38:15 -0000 In message <201803241747.w2OHlupR069759@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net>, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: >Have you thought of examining the TCP timestamp field? Not necessarily >for accurate uptime, but a way to determine if the hosts are the same. No, I certainly didn't, but that appears to be the exact kind of thing I was looking for, so thanks! (I will have to look into it some more. I have just skimmed RFC 1323 for the very first time ever, and it will take me awhile to fully grok this stuff.) >Or some of the other fingerprinting methods? nmap has options for uptime >and other fingerprinting : https://nmap.org/book/osdetect-usage.html I'm not seeing a separate option just for the uptime, apart from the full blown OS detection. Did I just miss it?