Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:04:33 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey <kdk@daleco.biz> To: Benjamin Lutz <benlutz@datacomm.ch> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Not an easy install Message-ID: <44273A21.20107@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <200603270119.28109.benlutz@datacomm.ch> References: <20060325160217.squjojr5uy2ogg0c@webmail.dommel.be> <4425611B.8030506@daleco.biz> <200603270119.28109.benlutz@datacomm.ch>
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Benjamin Lutz wrote: >On Saturday 25 March 2006 16:26, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > >>Installer, yes. "good system for installing programs" ... some would >>differ. Ease of use isn't the only thing that FreeBSD ports offers, >>and I'm not sure that PCBSD has that figured out; obviously, that's >>open for discussion. Seems to me, and some others, that PCBSD's >>implementation of 3rd party software may get its users in the same >>sort of "libc hell" that many Linux users find themselves in someplace >>down the road. >> >> > >I tried PC-BSD a couple of weeks ago. What they seem to do is include all the >necessary libs with a program, and install each program into a dedicated >library. So while there is bloat, a library hell there shouldn't be. > >Cheers >Benjamin > > I appreciate that comment; do we dare discuss it further? (And, it will take a more knowledgeable "guru" than me to do so, probably). What happens if there is an API/ABI change of the type that occurs once in a FBSD full moon ... 'please recompile all ports', or at least, 'all ports dependent on /usr/ports/foo/bar'? I suppose from an end-user standpoint, it's no worse than taking your (MSFT) computer to the shop and them "flattening" it, and you have to reinstall and restore a backup. But from my perspective, (and I've got to admit not giving it a whole lot of thought just yet) this could be "off-putting" to users, to say the least, and how will PCBSD handle this (reinstallation requirement). In leaving the "traditional" FBSD system, what's taking its place for upgrading/ updating, etc.? If you've got a good case, you might want to take it over to ##freebsd at freenode --- seems PCBSD gets badmouthed a little over there at times. And, I'm in danger of going way OT; if we need to continue, we should probably go chat@ .... KDK -- If I'm over the hill, why is it I don't recall ever being on top? -- Jerry Muscha
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