From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 22:28:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02147D9237 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46QBzV19whz3F0t for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:28:36 -0600 References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> <88cabc53-eff5-3e1a-6e77-2d86da2b8c8d@wavecable.com> <20190902164836.98486301.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906132003.a0e2c6a0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906234411.9aba1e00.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20190906234411.9aba1e00.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <668AE706-2B7D-40F9-B88A-208797D419BB@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46QBzV19whz3F0t X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.979,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.82), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.23), asn: 209(-0.04), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.911,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 22:28:39 -0000 On 6 Sep 2019, at 15:44, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:25:21 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: >> On 6 Sep 2019, at 05:20, Polytropon wrote: >>> Now, journaling tends to cause problems when using dump to backup >>> data partition-wise (e. g., "dump -0Lauf /mnt/rootfs.dmp = /dev/ada0p2=E2=80=9D). >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m not sure that is a problem with journaling as opposed to = a problem >> with dump. >=20 > I'm not primarily complaining about the problems between journaling > and dump, I'm complaining because the _choice_ is gone (or at least > choice now requires additional booting and fiddling with what has been > possible with ye olde sysinstall for decades). The defaults are always going to annoy some people. I=E2=80=99d say = using dump for backup seems like it=E2=80=99s pretty much and edge case = these days. >> Pick one fo the following: >>=20 >> 1. Journaling and rsync/tar/etc >> 2. ZFS Journaling/snapshots and dump to your heart's content >> 3. Use an older disk format >=20 > This is not always possible. Imagine a setting where you need to > introduce a new UFS-based system to a conglomerate where dumps are > obtained automatically at runtime. None (!) of the things listed > above is a solution. Why does it have to be UFS and why can=E2=80=99t you manually format the = disk if you really care that much? --=20 MY MOM IS NOT DATING JERRY SIENFELD Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF06=20