From owner-cvs-all Sun Jan 20 8:34:29 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365E137B419; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 08:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0KGXJK54575; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:33:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:33:19 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Julian Elischer , Mark Murray , "Andrey A. Chernov" , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For all who miss it, PAM changes explanation reposted Message-ID: <20020120173318.A54554@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <26372.1011491516@winston.freebsd.org> <20020120162430.B14512@genius.tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020120162430.B14512@genius.tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 04:24:30PM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 04:24:30PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 05:51:56PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I agree. I generally consider Mark a friend, but right now I just > > wish he'd shut the hell up. This kind of inflammatory exchange > > doesn't help the project and it doesn't send the right kind of message > > to anyone watching the exchange, as many people do. Right now, their > > opinion of FreeBSD is probably that it's run by meglomaniacs who > > scream and yell until they get their way. That's not why this project > > was started and if I had a gun right now, I'd probably shoot both DES > > and Mark in the name of the general good. > > And then resurrect them because they both do a lot of good work for > the project. :) Hm, maybe the best thing^Wpunishment would be for them to re-incarnate as core members... :-P -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message