From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Oct 4 19:40:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2FCE40E34 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F4A6E97C for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4F349E40E33; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC03E40E32 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "troutmask", Issuer "troutmask" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16BE06E97B for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v94JeQCi010883 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Oct 2017 12:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v94JePR6010882; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 12:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 12:40:25 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: George Mitchell Cc: Freddie Cash , FreeBSD Ports Mailing List , "Michael W. Lucas" Subject: Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc Message-ID: <20171004194025.GA10412@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Reply-To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu References: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com> <20171004171518.GA22519@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20171004181413.GA51148@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <81df6e05-136a-0037-9dba-a7499b7820da@m5p.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <81df6e05-136a-0037-9dba-a7499b7820da@m5p.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 19:40:27 -0000 On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:57:08PM -0400, George Mitchell wrote: > On 10/04/17 14:14, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 10:21:26AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kargl < > >> sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:16:49PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do simple > >>>> poudriere installs, but once you start covering it properly the docs > >>>> quickly expand. My notes alone are longer than my af3e chapter > >>>> limits. (I'll probably publish "FreeBSD Packaging Misery^WMastery" in > >>>> 2018). > >>> > >>> Please include a discussion on how to use poudriere on > >>> a system with limited resouces [...] > >> ​Pretty sure the standard response will be along the lines of:​ [...] > > Some users cannot afford a 16-core, 32 GB ram, 2TB diskspace box > > to simply build ports with custom options. [...] > While I agree with you, allow me to insert a gentle reminder that the > OP was asking only about whether to include portmaster in his book. > I suggest that he should. -- George Ahem, yeah, so I'm not allowed to request a short description on how to use poudiere in a resource constrained environment? -- Steve 20170425 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWUpyCsUKR4 20161221 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbCHE-hONow