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Have synth >users become disenchanted? I have been using synth now for several months and have not experienced any problems. I have found it to be far more competent that either portmaster o= r portupgrade ever were. >One downside is that synth fails to install build dependencies, so I have = to >pkg install all of these separately, very annoying. I don't understand your problem. Why install something that is not needed? >I was bitten just yesterday trying to build cross-compiling tools for Haik= u >when make info was missing because texinfo was built but not installed. I don't cross-compile, so I have no knowledge of this phenomena. Have you tried to contact the author and voice your concerns? >But I was able to recover with pkg install after checking my repository. > >With portmaster, I need to specify ports by category/portname rather than >just portname, for example portmaster www/seamonkey > >On my other computer, with MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard, synth just fumbles = and >crashes. > >Will both the old and revamped portmaster be maintained, and what will be = the >port names, since there can't be two ports both named portmaster? > >I used portupgrade before switching to portmaster. > >Tom --=20 Carmel