From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Oct 2 15:45:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA4E37B6BE for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (62.98.153.160) by relay2.inwind.it (5.1.046) id 39CB0979001A917A; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:38:02 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:38:48 GMT Message-ID: <20001002.23384800@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: ftpd bug in FreeBSD through at least 3.4 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: "James Wyatt" , "Poul-Henning Kamp" , "Brett Glass" , "Chris D . Faulhaber" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <60749.970522334@winston.osd.bsdi.com> References: <60749.970522334@winston.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> redirected to -chat <=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 10/2/00, 10:32:14 PM, Jordan Hubbard wrote= =20 regarding Re: ftpd bug in FreeBSD through at least 3.4 : > > And this is why Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, et al will NEVER beat a=20 supported > > pay-for-use Operating System like Windows in the eyes of real-world > > business-critical system administrators and CIOs. Of course, all the= =20 egos, > > moaning, and bitching don't help either. > If you want to buy a support contract for older version of FreeBSD, > please contact BSDi at 1-800-800-4BSD (or +1 719 457 8400 outside the > USA) or, if you prefer, any of the other companies offering commercial= > support for *BSD which are listed in the gallery. > Expecting unpaid volunteers to perform the same function as the > pay-for-use operating system vendors would be so unrealistic as to > border on idiocy and so I can only give you the benefit of the doubt > in assuming you must have been talking about something else. > - Jordan Dear Jordan Hubbard, I am sorry to inform you that I disagree: 1) I do NOT think that M$ support, albeit paid 195$/h or so, is as=20 effective as your statements would seem to imply; 2) I do NOT think that Windows (NT4 or NT5, ahem, Windows2000)=20 administrators have a knowledge of OSes, networking, etc., comparable=20 to UNIX administrators; 3) I do NOT think that UNIX experts/specialists can ever be considered=20 on the same footing as the so-called Windows (aka point-and-click)=20 experts; While I understand your overall attidude, I do NOT accept the=20 implications sub 1), 2), 3). Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message