From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Apr 18 06:56:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA05108 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 06:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05102 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 06:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from danlaw1 (liv-77.rust.net [206.42.195.177]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04831; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33577D6B.143B@rust.net> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:55:55 -0400 From: Sysadmin Reply-To: danlaw@rust.net Organization: Danlaw, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Dillon CC: freebsd-isp@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: News... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Dillon wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Sysadmin wrote: > > > And who is this "we" who will "manage" Usenet? > > Pretty much the same people that manage it now. USENET is not utter chaos > but is actually quite organized by many volunteers. Even the alt.* > hierarchy is organized, just using different policies than the main > hierarchies. Rules which you seem to intend to reverse the purpose and spirit of. > > I don't have any problem with "cancelmoose" type enforcment of *limited* > > content-neutral rules generally accepted by Usenet's user-owners. But I > > do with anyone who thinks they have the right to prevent or inhibit its > > use by others, or to modify it simply because that would make it easier > > to carry. But I'm starting to get the impression that this thread's real > > intent is to eliminate newsgroups which are unwanted and at the same > > time not have to provide them to those getting newsfeeds, and prevent > > others from carrying them as well, lest the customers vote with their > > feet and go to the other providers. Fsck that idea. You don't want the > > group, don't carry it, but if others do, don't grouse about their > > choice. > > I was going to answer this but on second thought, you seem to firmly > believe that the sound of black helicopters is getting near so I think > I'll pass. Ooo, that stings! Black helicopters! Nah, the only sound I hear sounds like - whining. Actually I don't think there's the slightest chance of anything much more than more whining occurring. :-)