Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:36:53 +0300 From: Beeblebrox <zaphod@berentweb.com> To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: End of year Xorg status rant Message-ID: <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb>
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Hello, I've been using FreeBSD-11 for a little over 2 years. I had upgraded very e= arly to take advantage of the Radeon-KMS drivers. Since the version was HEA= D, I resigned to my fate of strugling through some very serious display pro= blems; now that 11 is Release, I'd like to make some headway on this proble= m. Below listed issues make the FreeBSD Desktop experience a complete Hell = for me. What I'm seeing: * None of the web browsers work well. Firefox crashes immediately. Epiphany= , Midori & Chrome display a litle better but crash prety quickly. Recently = installed qupzilla-qt5, which at least is semi-stable but lines on page tex= t get mixed in to one another resulting in text-on-text - also clickable it= ems are not where they show up on the page. The recent Seamonkey update is = working the best but has same problem as qupzilla-qt5, and if I wait a whil= e the page gets re-drawn correctly. Best browser is Opera, works and stable= , but scares the s**t out of me when I use it since it's old and probably v= ulnerable. If I add a script-blocker extension to it (likes of no-script), = Opera also stops displaying the page. * Window Managers have mixed stability. Lumina crashes within 15-20 secs of= coming up; so does openbox/gnome. Gnome-3/gnome-classic is semi-stable, bu= t most text is garbled and you have a tough time navigating around. All Gno= me-based apps have it the worst and display strange things even when used i= n other WM's. Enlightenment, which was broken for a while seems fixed and i= s performing to some degree. Fluxbox is the most stable. * Java-based apps behave horribly, must are very quick to crash. VirtualBox= for example - It's near impossible to use the GUI and navigate a VM Guest = because the mouse pointer jumps around like its on amphetamines. Several ot= her java apps have problems with inability to display text (blank lines ins= tead), slow response to mouse clicks or flickering. * All Desktop/WM's have a "stick mouse" problem, where mose refuses to move= incrementally (usually near app fram borders) so I end up jerking my hand = like some mental case to accelerate the mouse out of its stickieness. * All apps now come with a default yellow foreground setting, but that's th= e least of my problems :p (nice screenshot of these problems attached). A = part of the issue might be libGL, as a recent java app crash log highlights= (log file also attached). * When I switch to vt-console (alt-F1-8) and back to desktop (Alt-F9), some= times the screen starts to flicker like mad and if there's a terminal at t= he foreground the machine starts inputing an endless series of "0-0-0-0-0-0= -0-0" that I must stop with ctrl+c * Another possibility I thought of is that the Linux layer in src (COMPAT_L= INUX32) is not happy with the driver code. The reason I bring that up is th= at while testing sysutils/grub2-pcbsd, grub drops to grub-console (path to = mount root) and the keyboard/screen output is very unresponsive to the poin= t that it takes 1/2 minute for screen output to change. * All in all, the problem can be best described as an inability to properly= refresh/redraw the display; which brings me to the end of this rant. Thanks for reading, merry Solstice and a happy New Year to all of you.=20 SYSTEM: * FreeBSD 11.0-STABLE #0 4370756a792(stable/11): Fri Dec 30 09:48:35 +03 20= 16 * All ports installed through poudrire built packages. * GPU: RS880 [Radeon HD 4250] * Possibly relevant Xorg.log output: (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data obje= ct. (II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw" (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support --=20 FreeBSD_amd64_11-Stable_RadeonKMS Please CC my email when responding, mail from list is not delivered.
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