From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 2 19:09:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93F716A4CF for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:09:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8783143D48 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:09:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Rich@WhiteOakLabs.com) Received: from xa.houston.rr.com (cs671035-55.houston.rr.com [67.10.35.55]) i62IXMQ1027200 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from a (a.home.org [172.16.0.100]) by xa.houston.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i62IXHiR003365 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:33:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Rich@WhiteOakLabs.com) Message-Id: <200407021833.i62IXHiR003365@xa.houston.rr.com> From: "Dr. Rich Murphey" To: Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:33:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20040702161152.40151.qmail@web13422.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcRgUELx0ESJUBhjSGyZUkR+fEkfWgAEOPbA X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: RE: Using xorg instead of XFree86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 19:09:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > pfgshield-pedro@yahoo.com > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:12 AM > To: Matthew Gardiner; Vulpes Velox > Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Using xorg instead of XFree86 > > --- Matthew Gardiner ha scritto: > > > > > Its basically a full gone conclusion, look at the organisations > > supporting > > XFree86 vs. Xorg, look at the development tree's etc. etc. Xorg is > > moving forward whilst XFree86 has basically remained static. > > > > I think the bigger one will be the OpenGL accelerated Xserver being > > developed by Keith Packard. > > > > I think this thread is going nowhere very fast... but anyways > > X is arguably the most important application in any free OS > distribution. IMHO Linux distributors haven't been fully > sponsoring XFree86 as a project as they should, and now they > complain because of a minimal change in the license of code > they didn't write. > > X.org and XFree86 have existed in parallel for a LONG time, > and the sponsorship behind either project is still too small, > compared to the importance of the project and the type of > money other organizations move. > > It's just my opinion, from the outside, but just as other > non-coders are so eagerly pointing out that XFree86 seems > lonely, I just take note that 1) it's never been really > crowded and 2) the grass is not very greener on the other side. > > That said, I don't really care about the X.org vs XFree86 > debate. I'd just like to see the XFree86 update committed > and, if possible, both systems being well supported on my > favorite OS. If it's not easy to run either project, maybe > it's time to revaluate my OS preferrence and I'd really > prefer not doing that ATM. > > Pedro. No, you can't update the XFree86 port, you're just going to have to live with XFree86 4.3. We know what's best, and X.org is better for you. XFree86 is a bunch of jerks because they didn't let certain people commit certain code, so we're going to do exactly the same thing and deny you the ability to maintain XFree86. Oh, and don't bother to complain, we'll just ignore you. You can't win really, so don't bother. It's all been decided, regardless of what might be said here, or had you failed to notice that? Cheers, Rich