From owner-freebsd-security Sun Dec 6 17:46:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29921 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:46:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.93.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29916 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16222; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:44:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Julian Assange cc: "Jan B. Koum " , Paul Griffith , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenBSD vs FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Dec 1998, Julian Assange wrote: > > Do you really expect people here, on this list to say > > "Use OpenBSD" or "Use Linux" or etc? > > `Use NetBSD' Use a toaster oven. Toaster ovens have excellent network security characteristics. For example, they are not susceptible to any IMAP-based buffer overflow attacks; additionally, current toaster ovens are not known to have any bugs in their TCP/IP stacks, nor have been vulnerable to any in the recent past (according to CERT advisories, anyway). Toaster ovens require console access to perform administrative functions (such as modification of temperature settings), but this will not impede deployment in a number of environment. Toaster ovens may be vulnerable to a remote denial of service attack involving manipulation of power lines -- however, most operating systems running on standard hardware are also vulnerable to this attack. I have found that my toaster oven has served me well for a number of years, and produces excellent grilled cheese sandwiches, which is far better than my pentium running FreeBSD, largely because the cooling fan on the pentium does too good a job. Go figure. Maybe if I get a pentium pro? Neither my FreeBSD box nor my toaster oven has suffered from a security problem in a while. Robert N Watson robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: 03 01 DD 8E 15 67 48 73 25 6D 10 FC EC 68 C1 1C Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ TIS Labs at Network Associates, Inc. http://www.tis.com/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message