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Date:      Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:00:40 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jim Bryant <jbryant@unix.tfs.net>
To:        mnewell@newell.arlington.va.us (Mike Newell)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: thickwire<->thinwire
Message-ID:  <199710030000.TAA03036@argus.tfs.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971002163416.3472H-100000@bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us> from Mike Newell at "Oct 2, 97 04:36:31 pm"

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> On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> 
> wilko> Not completely. The collision detect uses a diode connection to the central
> wilko> conductor on the thinwire tranceiver, and is directly connected for
> wilko> thickwire (or the other way around, I forgot that detail). This is at least
> wilko> the difference in the NS8392 based implementation I used when I built
> wilko> a couple of tranceivers myself (years ago, when they were rare and $ were
> wilko> few ;-)
> 
> For short distances we had good success using an "N" to BNC adaptor (a few
> bucks in most "real" electronics stores).  Just pull the terminator off
> one end of the thick, screw the adaptor on, twist on the thin, and put the
> standard BNC type terminator at the end of the thin.  Wouldn't recommend
> it for cables near their max length, but for short ones...

my memory fails me...  the wire frequency is 20MHz, correct?

the max length is limited by distributed capacitance [assuming a long,
random, non-resonant length of transmission line], correct?

applying conventional transmission line theory, could you not use
longer lengths that are multiples of one wavelength of the base
frequency in use?  this should apply maximum in-phase signal to the
downstream connection.

or am i completely misunderstanding ethernet here?

i would think that the only problems that would occur through the
N<->BNC adaptor would be a small insertion loss [avg for a good
connector around 1.05-1.1 dB], and slight increase in SWR.

jim
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