From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 19 15:22:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA11701 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from usr01.primenet.com (tlambert@usr01.primenet.com [206.165.6.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11690 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09195; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:22:24 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199711192322.QAA09195@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Mail spam, sigh... To: sef@kithrup.com (Sean Eric Fagan) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199711192028.MAA14215@kithrup.com> from "Sean Eric Fagan" at Nov 19, 97 12:28:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Along this vein... I'd like to suggest adding the RBL support to the default > sendmail file (freebsd.mc). This way, all FreeBSD systems would, by > default, drop SMTP connections from the sites on the blacklist. > > I'd also like to add the anti-relay code to the file, but that's a bit > trickier, I'm afraid (too easy to get wrong and screw things up). I have yet to see a clean way to make this work with a transiently connected system. I'd guess that the majority of users are on transiently connected systems (note: I did not say the majority of FreeBSD boxes). We need to start thinking about a set of "out of the box" configurations: o Not connected to the Internet at all o Transiently connected (ie: dialup async/ISDN) o Batch outgoing mail o Connect and send outgoing mail immediately o Permananetly connected That's enough for now, anyway... I'd like to see mobile/docked, moble/undocked/disconnected, and mobile/undocked/connected configurations as well (get your email using the phone on the Airplane, at the hotel, etc.), but first things first. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.