Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:56:45 -0600 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." <dchapman@houabg.com> To: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Confusion Message-ID: <014c01be71bc$84bb2480$0300a8c0@dwcjr.houabg.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] I'm going to have to be on Jordan's side on this one. If you are going to invest in an operating system that you need to rely on, you should do a little research on it first. -----Original Message----- From: Michael E. Mercer <mmercer@ipass.net> To: Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: me@T-F-I.freeserve.co.uk <me@T-F-I.freeserve.co.uk>; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Confusion >All, > >I come from a perspective of both sides. I know a little about >FreeBSD because I subscribe to mailing-lists and try to keep >up with FreeBSD current. > >BUT I agree with the consumers side in this. From what you stated >below, 'From the README.TXT' implies the consumer already bought >the DISKS or whatever. Also with the consumers point of view, >the consumer would like to know what they have in their hands >before they get it. My arguments here are weak, I know, and I don't >really want to get into a battle here. This is my $.02 worth. > >Later >Michael Mercer > > >"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: >> >> > I've not actually seen the FBSD disks in the shops yet, but I'm sure >> > it won't be long before they are available that way. Nowhere (on my >> > disk set at least) does it mention the above quote. In fact it says >> > ``If you want stable networking and a powerful development >> > environment, FreeBSD is the Operating system for you''. >> >> You just haven't looked very carefully. ;) From the README.TXT >> in 3.0-RELEASE: >> >> TARGET AUDIENCE: >> ---------------- >> This release is aimed primarily at early-adopters and the various >> other folks who want to get on board with 3.0 and are willing to deal >> with the various down-sides of a "dot-zero" release. We have naturally >> done our best to ensure that 3.0 performs as advertised but, as the >> first release on a branch which has seen some very radical changes >> from 2.2.x (SMP, ELF, new boot blocks, many kernel changes, etc), it's >> also very new technology and will require at least one more release >> along the 3.0 branch before it's ready for "production" purposes. >> This is one of the reasons why the 2.2.x branch will be continuing >> into November, with the scheduled release of 2.2.8, and possibly a bit >> beyond. >> >> If you're both technically proficient and know exactly what you're >> getting into here (e.g. you've been following -current) then 3.0 is >> probably for you. If you're more interested in doing business with >> FreeBSD than in playing with the cutting edge of technology, however, >> then 2.2.x is almost certainly your best bet. >> >> I'd say it's more than adequately made clear, and anyone failing to >> heed the above warnings deserves, to be somewhat brutal about it, >> exactly what they get. If you're the type to pick up guns and aim >> them at your head, we can't stop you, we can only tell you not to do >> so (as above). Those who refuse to read the README.TXT file at all >> are in the same boat. >> >> - Jordan >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are Micro$oft, you will be assimilated.. your technological weakness will be added to our own.. resistance is Futile! [-- Attachment #2 --] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>I'm going to have to be on Jordan's side on this one. If you are going to<BR>invest in an operating system that you need to rely on, you should do a<BR>little research on it first.<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Michael E. Mercer <<A href="mailto:mmercer@ipass.net">mmercer@ipass.net</A>><BR>To: Jordan K. Hubbard <<A href="mailto:jkh@zippy.cdrom.com">jkh@zippy.cdrom.com</A>><BR>Cc: <A href="mailto:me@T-F-I.freeserve.co.uk">me@T-F-I.freeserve.co.uk</A> <<A href="mailto:me@T-F-I.freeserve.co.uk">me@T-F-I.freeserve.co.uk</A>>;<BR><A href="mailto:freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG</A> <<A href="mailto:freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG</A>><BR>Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:44 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Confusion<BR><BR><BR>>All,<BR>><BR>>I come from a perspective of both sides. I know a little about<BR>>FreeBSD because I subscribe to mailing-lists and try to keep<BR>>up with FreeBSD current.<BR>><BR>>BUT I agree with the consumers side in this. From what you stated<BR>>below, 'From the README.TXT' implies the consumer already bought<BR>>the DISKS or whatever. Also with the consumers point of view,<BR>>the consumer would like to know what they have in their hands<BR>>before they get it. My arguments here are weak, I know, and I don't<BR>>really want to get into a battle here. This is my $.02 worth.<BR>><BR>>Later<BR>>Michael Mercer<BR>><BR>><BR>>"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> > I've not actually seen the FBSD disks in the shops yet, but I'm sure<BR>>> > it won't be long before they are available that way. Nowhere (on my<BR>>> > disk set at least) does it mention the above quote. In fact it says<BR>>> > ``If you want stable networking and a powerful development<BR>>> > environment, FreeBSD is the Operating system for you''.<BR>>><BR>>> You just haven't looked very carefully. ;) From the README.TXT<BR>>> in 3.0-RELEASE:<BR>>><BR>>> TARGET AUDIENCE:<BR>>> ----------------<BR>>> This release is aimed primarily at early-adopters and the various<BR>>> other folks who want to get on board with 3.0 and are willing to deal<BR>>> with the various down-sides of a "dot-zero" release. We have naturally<BR>>> done our best to ensure that 3.0 performs as advertised but, as the<BR>>> first release on a branch which has seen some very radical changes<BR>>> from 2.2.x (SMP, ELF, new boot blocks, many kernel changes, etc), it's<BR>>> also very new technology and will require at least one more release<BR>>> along the 3.0 branch before it's ready for "production" purposes.<BR>>> This is one of the reasons why the 2.2.x branch will be continuing<BR>>> into November, with the scheduled release of 2.2.8, and possibly a bit<BR>>> beyond.<BR>>><BR>>> If you're both technically proficient and know exactly what you're<BR>>> getting into here (e.g. you've been following -current) then 3.0 is<BR>>> probably for you. If you're more interested in doing business with<BR>>> FreeBSD than in playing with the cutting edge of technology, however,<BR>>> then 2.2.x is almost certainly your best bet.<BR>>><BR>>> I'd say it's more than adequately made clear, and anyone failing to<BR>>> heed the above warnings deserves, to be somewhat brutal about it,<BR>>> exactly what they get. If you're the type to pick up guns and aim<BR>>> them at your head, we can't stop you, we can only tell you not to do<BR>>> so (as above). Those who refuse to read the README.TXT file at all<BR>>> are in the same boat.<BR>>><BR>>> - Jordan<BR>>><BR>>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to <A href="mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.org">majordomo@FreeBSD.org</A><BR>>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message<BR>><BR>><BR>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to <A href="mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.org">majordomo@FreeBSD.org</A><BR>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message<BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>We are Micro$oft, you will be assimilated..<BR>your technological weakness will be added to our own..<BR>resistance is Futile!</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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