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To: pkg@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FKYcd28csz3Cwn X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lgvmdEI/; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paulbeard@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paulbeard@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.36 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.63)[-0.635]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[pkg@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c:from:127.0.2.255]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.27)[0.273]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[pkg] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 08:20:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 18:13:06 -0000 This seems like a pretty clear violation of that. Why does pkg want to uninstall pkgs I use? And why does it want to a. downgrade icu to accommodate spidermonkey78? b. upgrade a pkg that is already current=E2=80=A6? pkg info py37-openssl py37-openssl-20.0.1 Name : py37-openssl Version : 20.0.1 The following 33 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be REMOVED: gramps: 5.1.1_1 harfbuzz-icu: 2.8.0_1 nextcloud-php74: 21.0.1 php74-intl: 7.4.16_1 php74-pecl-smbclient: 1.0.5 postfix-current: 3.6.20210411,6 py37-pyicu: 2.4.3_2 samba412: 4.12.14_1 texlive-base: 20150521_64 Installed packages to be UPGRADED: py37-openssl: 20.0.1 -> 19.1.0,1 rust-cbindgen: 0.17.0 -> 0.18.0_1 spidermonkey78: 78.6.0 -> 78.7.0_2 Installed packages to be DOWNGRADED: icu: 69.1,1 -> 68.2,1 Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: cairo-1.16.0_1,3 (options changed) colord-1.3.5_1 (options changed) cups-2.3.3op2 (options changed) curl-7.75.0 (options changed) fontconfig-2.13.93,1 (options changed) freeglut-3.0.0_2 (direct dependency changed: libXxf86vm) freetype2-2.10.4 (options changed) git-2.31.1_1 (options changed) gmp-6.2.1 (options changed) llvm10-10.0.1_5 (needed shared library changed) net-snmp-5.9_3,1 (direct dependency changed: perl5) nettle-3.7.2_1 (direct dependency changed: indexinfo) nginx-1.18.0_49,2 (options changed) openssl-1.1.1k_1,1 (options changed) p5-GSSAPI-0.28_1 (options changed) php74-extensions-1.0 (options changed) php74-openssl-7.4.16 (direct dependency changed: php74) php74-snmp-7.4.16 (direct dependency changed: net-snmp) python37-3.7.10 (direct dependency changed: readline) ruby-2.7.3,1 (direct dependency changed: libunwind) --=20 Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/