From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 16 11:41:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A8937B40B for ; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g4GIfKH48545 ; Thu, 16 May 2002 20:41:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id UAA90811 ; Thu, 16 May 2002 20:41:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:41:20 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Terry Lambert Cc: Miguel Mendez , Nils Holland , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Grafitti (was Re: The road ahead?) Message-ID: <20020516204120.J79514@lpt.ens.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Terry Lambert , Miguel Mendez , Nils Holland , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <20020516151801.A47974@energyhq.homeip.net> <3CE3FA7D.9743E0E@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3CE3FA7D.9743E0E@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Thu, May 16, 2002 at 11:29:17AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert said on May 16, 2002 at 11:29:17: > > I will become worried about Grafitti when people start to > write on paper that way. Until then, it's really a one-way > encoding mechanism. > > I think any time you have to change humans to benefit the > machines, it's a mistake. It means someone was lazy. You could have said that about the typewriter. You can say it about the computer keyboard. Pressing a key, or pressing two keys at a time, is a "one-way encoding mechanism" too. Sure, proper handwriting recognition would be "better" in some sense, but people wanted functioning palm-pilots "now", not several years down the line. Would handwriting recognition be faster? Not necessarily. Note-takers often still use shorthand. I think even when we can write with our hands on computer touch pads, or talk to them, and have them understand us, keyboards will still be the way we do most of our work. Even before computers, I know of many people who preferred typing not because their handwriting was bad but because typing was faster. Similarly for a pocket device like the palmpilot, some form of "graffiti" may continue to be useful too. The real point about it is not that it's one-way or that it requires humans to change, but that it's not in any sense a standard (yet). - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message