From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 18:08:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7F1106566B for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430DC8FC18 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kHTW1h0061ei1Bg57J8xxu; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kJ8w1h00R4uzdYs3kJ8xRM; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 +0000 Message-ID: <4E972939.5030505@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:08:57 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111011222327.6002c397@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20111011222327.6002c397@dijkstra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 -0000 *snip* On 10/11/2011 4:23 PM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > Cannot be of any direct help, but ... > > You remember that 'astronomer chases hacker on Berkely computer > systes'- novel, Cliff Stoll: The Cookoo's Egg? If not, try wikipedia. > As an aside, I was told that at some universities' CS-classes, it is > required lecture. In that novel, user's departments where charged > according to resources spent on the university's computers and the > main figure was tasked to find out about a 0.75$ accounting error and > found a hacker instead. The system in the novel was a Berkeley Unix. > So, systems that do what you want (and customers who want to pay on a > per use basis) must be around for quite some time. The novel is > copyrighted 1989, I cannot track when the real event circling around > a certain Markus Hess, cf. also wikipedia, took place. My guess about > the system is 4.3BSD Tahoe or earlier 4.3BSD. > > Cheers, I actually found that book not very long ago at a used book store. It was neat; I went in with my Wife, saw that, started reading the back, saw Berkeley, and bought it. At first I wasn't sure how it would go, but as I kept reading, I started knocking out like 5 chapters at a time, and reading multiple times a day. It was a REALLY good book, and, yea, the Copyright, on mine at least, says "1989" and "1990" but, in the book, he does name years in it. Some of them I know are 1987, and some I think were much earlier, but I don't think any of the time frames he gave were before 1985 or so, but I'd have to check, as I finished it and read the last chapter a while ago. I thought it was funny that a 75 cent accounting error was how they figured out a complete ring of "chaos" lol. And of course, you can't help but laugh at the VMS joke, and, the System V jokes. -Allen