From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 9 02:18:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BABB16A494; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 02:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd@ugcs.caltech.edu) Received: from groat.ugcs.caltech.edu (groat.ugcs.caltech.edu [131.215.176.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E619543D8B; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 02:18:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@ugcs.caltech.edu) Received: by groat.ugcs.caltech.edu (Postfix, from userid 3640) id 398945880B; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:18:18 -0700 From: Paul Allen To: Maxim Sobolev Message-ID: <20060609021818.GH28128@groat.ugcs.caltech.edu> References: <20060608132048.GD86198@garage.freebsd.pl> <20060608174113.GC1075@roadrunner.q.local> <4488CCC7.4040500@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4488CCC7.4040500@FreeBSD.org> Sender: jd@ugcs.caltech.edu Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek Subject: Re: Data authentication for geli(8) committed to HEAD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:18:19 -0000 >From Maxim Sobolev , Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:20:07PM -0700: > 3. Implement some kind of sector-level journaling, again the performance > is likely to suffer a great deal due to seeks. Right. This is certainly a case where background fsck is useless and much of the theory of softupdates generally is wrong. Just one more nail to seal the fate of softupdates. Paul