From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 4 11:17:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C59B37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49C2E43E4A for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 7520 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 2002 19:17:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:17:41 -0800 (PST) From: Nate Lawson To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Terry Lambert , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dgb driver update In-Reply-To: <20021104130717.A27977@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:14:01AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:05:29AM +0300, Oleg Sharoiko wrote: > > > > > > you could use send-pr to make the proposed patch visible in the > > > bug tracking database > > > > Submit it to the PR database. > > > > It can get in line behind the other almost 3000 open PR's, 65% of > > which are ports, 30% of which are against kern, and for which many > > contain patches, but have not been committed (yes, I am skeptical > > about the effectiveness of "send-pr", and will probably remain so, > > You have every right to be sceptical. I'm unfortunately just as > sceptical about a patch floating in a random mailing list. > > Rock & a hard place :( The best way is to send a pr and then followup on mailing lists as appropriate or perhaps by contacting the maintainer. The PR provides history for a given problem and patch and the followup initiates action on behalf of the committers. It's important to get someone to take up the "responsible" field before any action can happen. BTW, the number of PRs is not totally the fault of committers. I've been scanning through the DB with about 50% of my FreeBSD-time and fixing things that I find there. However, it has taken about 3x as long as I expected to commit a patch because almost all of them are very incomplete and actually are more a suggestion on an area that needs improvement, not a fix. -Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message