From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 7 18:28:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from softweyr.com (softweyr.com [208.247.99.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B637B403; Sat, 7 Jul 2001 18:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from localhost.softweyr.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=softweyr.com ident=9d1e3d1872eaca7083b725e93d9c8d62) by softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15J3SI-0000KN-00; Sat, 07 Jul 2001 19:33:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3B47B87E.78068C23@softweyr.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 19:33:50 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Don Wilde Cc: Greg Lehey , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Eric, you were right! References: <3B44C80C.FF06D16C@Silver-Lynx.com> <20010705220738.J327@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <3B471B61.23937991@Silver-Lynx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don Wilde wrote: > > Isn't it though? Wind River survives in the embedded world because their > software is so pricey the government thinks it must be worth something, > and therefore we Americans have the privilege of paying for it with our That's a little over the top. Wind River survives in the embbedded world because they provide products and support that outshine those of all their competitors. That may say something about the quality of their competitors that is uncomfortable to contemplate. Wind River has, I'm certain, experienced a lot of pressure from the various embedded Linux vendors. Embedded Linux offers a lot of functionality at a very low price point, and draws from a large base of relatively knowlegable programmers; it has all the same advantages I outlined for embedded BSD systems in a Daemon's Advocate column a couple of years ago. Depending on your viewpoint, it may or may not have a disadvantage in the licensing. Give WRS credit for at least seeing the value in providing embedded BSD systems as an alternative to their customers looking for a more functional (and less real-time) embedded system. If WRS, BSD/Linux Central, or anyone else are not meeting our needs, we simply need to steer the FreeBSD Project in another direction. Please join us in discussing how best to do that, rather than deriding the company who is currently struggling to meet our demands for goods and services. They're pretty new at this kind of volume, you know. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message