From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 19 00:03:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE4716A41A for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B394813C4EC for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so802687anc.13 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:03:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FwHcNvP6x0gTf8XSncV5HK8+OIrTkeCPTqRQ9pOZ+p0=; b=OZSBrgqV4xrdvjTO4a03rSmv/VokcLcLkXDLGNMcUAXcChk5npj4X0Z+Opkk3XFIYpAabXza1LHRtpAp9hlb5lOVuNc9OK3OnJvpw1+LVtVAjIe8JKKidKwLGVCqbZh1USkEwGDF+Ljw453MZ5PS3G8ZJKPeXO/G5NWh/n9v4gs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AUl5BM6ahhb95U7IrZvPPydb2W4MM0jWFmfNcLG8Ta/lrDycK498BtxLY5Do0HBTqh3xZ0O3kmdeOAkWowAFfsD0ygyTnpjUbCz1MFEJUzfQYwxVuKqXebi4nTgX6GzYvrySvqrHE/+uX60MRN16Vd7K+4EqFDSam8uHJWV6RKk= Received: by 10.100.232.13 with SMTP id e13mr18793902anh.63.1198021075827; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.248.5 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:37:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0712181537o4e215c9agb916bd5fe88f6f44@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:37:55 -0500 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Tom Rhodes" In-Reply-To: <20071212013750.034d685b.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200712081213.lB8CDQAB044237@repoman.freebsd.org> <475A94B4.4060606@FreeBSD.org> <20071212013750.034d685b.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Old style quotation [Was:Re: cvs commit: www/en/platforms amd64.sgml] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:03:21 -0000 On 12/12/07, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:57:24 +0100 > Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > > > Chin-San Huang escribi=F3: > > > chinsan 2007-12-08 12:13:26 UTC > > > > > > FreeBSD doc repository > > > > > > Modified files: > > > en/platforms amd64.sgml > > > Log: > > > - Revert the correct American English style. > > > ( ``Hammer''. -> ``Hammer.'' ) > > > > > This change made me remember of a thing that I've wanted to discuss. As > > a tradition, we use `` and '' character pairs to quote text. This seems > > to be strange for people that don't know this tradition and there's no > > technical reason to go on doing this, we can just use " ", which seems > > to be better formatted according to the current style conventions used > > on the web. Is there any objection against that I change them to normal > > quotation marks? We already use those in the Hungarian and Spanish web > > translations without any problems and the text in the element i= n > > DocBook also have normal quotation marks in the generated output. > > I asked this very question a long time ago, something with layout > in the ISO key set (I think). You can search the archives, it was > about or around 5 years ago (again, I think). > I saw this fairly recently elsewhere -- apparently it is in some *roff spec that `` and '' should always render as nice, paired quotes. This didn't actually happen for a long time since that's basically the best that ASCII can do; however, Unicode makes it possible. Just using " would, by that spec, produce broken output. It is, however, questionable if this is relevant anymore. -Ben Kaduk