From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 14 18:28:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC06E16A403; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [66.92.79.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB7113C48D; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l6EHrQjn038411; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l6EHrQOQ038408; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18073.3478.284631.986914@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:53:26 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman To: Robert Watson In-Reply-To: <20070714164146.Q80803@fledge.watson.org> References: <46985815.3060308@os2.kiev.ua> <20070714164146.Q80803@fledge.watson.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 20) "Double Solitaire" XEmacs Lucid X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:03:45 +0000 Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSM questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:28:57 -0000 < said: > This is correct -- login services must be modified to properly set up user > audit state at login. I am not familiar with work relating to this with xdm, > kdm, gdm, etc, but it would be very good to see this happen. Surely this is something that belongs in a PAM module...? The whole point of the PAM framework is that you should *not* have to modify every program that does a login when new mechanisms are introduced or policy changes. -GAWollman