From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 21 08:20:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA15913 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from croute.com (archive.croute.com [199.97.106.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA15865 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bldg1.croute.com (bldg1.croute.com [199.97.106.99]) by croute.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA06129 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:12:29 -0500 Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.31); 21 May 97 10:27:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.31); 21 May 97 10:26:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:26:38 -0600 CDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Cluster Computing in BSD X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Larry Dolinar" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19970521074617.TD13830@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: ; from Pedro F. Giffuni on May 20, 1997 16:04:51 -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: <204A515F05@bldg1.croute.com> Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And the clouds parted on 21 May 97, and J Wunsch said: >As Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > >> I don't doubt it, they receive good cash from everything they sell, the >> problem is that either their products suck (like AIX and AS400), ... > >AIX has it's good ends, too. I would be more than happy to have their >LVM and JFS in FreeBSD, trust me. > >When i ran `shutdown' on an AIX machine some time ago, my colleague >asked me, apparently astonished: ``Why the heck do you do this? >Simply turn it off!'' :) Bet *he* never spent any significant time trying to revive a bootable filesystem that got trashed by that approach... > >-- >cheers, J"org We just fired a guy that repeatedly ignored standard shutdown procedures on one of our Sparc 10's. His rationale: the Unix for Dummies book didn't say anything about it. Good thing I didn't get to him first [diabolical laughter..] cheers, larry