From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Oct 14 06:22:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838E6C117B4 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 06:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loic.blot@unix-experience.fr) Received: from smtp.unix-experience.fr (kingslanding.unix-experience.fr [62.4.22.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49DF9131 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 06:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loic.blot@unix-experience.fr) Received: from smtp.unix-experience.fr (unknown [192.168.200.21]) by smtp.unix-experience.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5F464530 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:15:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: scanned by unix-experience.fr Received: from smtp.unix-experience.fr ([192.168.200.21]) by smtp.unix-experience.fr (smtp.unix-experience.fr [192.168.200.21]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l52td45qzu3V for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Nerz-PC (LFbn-1-710-40.w86-246.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.246.185.40]) by smtp.unix-experience.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A380464526 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=unix-experience.fr; s=uxselect; t=1476425713; bh=FuAsUhhOjBELBH3B/0oDegVgDWttsd66xcMx9gnVbuY=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=lC7KR7mBrpj8dzJj8xvuTnoyKj6ezzU77nR8NBuIOGmY/cuBC38sgZD+M7BAUTxiZ 0ZXi7UlthkT8XA6DzDdGbd5xaBsX7uowYSsii+7grOtijT5Z7YQNz5RHJlfBL6AQ+A 2efAHa3qD9G4iKXgbEwp2Ftdb9tQdK3HqF+X8/XM= Message-ID: <1476425664.4864.2.camel@unix-experience.fr> Subject: Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc?= BLOT To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:14:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <57FFB185.6030601@quip.cz> References: <638fe078-80db-2492-90be-f1280eb8d445@freebsd.org> <20161012092403.66a41d9e@freedom.alkumuna.eu> <00f3768e-f57a-661c-aa62-89cdf10926bd@netfence.it> <57FFB185.6030601@quip.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 06:22:43 -0000 FreeBSD ports are complicated ? Does someone of you tryed to do a Debian package, it's even more complicated as you should modify many path, split package in multiple packages, do the service engineering with systemV or systemD, etc ? -- Best regards, Loïc BLOT, UNIX systems, security and network engineer http://www.unix-experience.fr Le jeudi 13 octobre 2016 à 18:08 +0200, Miroslav Lachman a écrit : > David Demelier wrote on 2016/10/13 14:42: > > 2016-10-12 10:04 GMT+02:00 Andrea Venturoli : > > > On 10/12/16 09:24, Matthieu Volat wrote: > > > > > > > And GNU/Linuxes can be a PITA when you have to track -dev(el) > > > > packages > > > > (which sometimes really requires -bin, -app or whatever), or > > > > worst, describe > > > > to people how they are supposed to build your software with > > > > weird subpackage > > > > names. > > > > > > > > I really like that ports provides the software project as > > > > intended by > > > > upstream (modulo options). > > > > > > > > > Just a "me too" here! > > > > Could not agree more. > > > > Please forget that idea. > > > > I just hate having to install libfoo, libfoo-dev, libfoo-dbg, > > libfoo-doc, libfoo-whatever each time I need to develop on Linux. > > Please do not transform FreeBSD as a Linux distribution :) > > > > I love the way FreeBSD and some very sparse Linux distributions > > provide the packages exactly how it would be installed by hand (= > > vanilla). > > > > FreeBSD offers some options and very few changes for better > > integration but packages are provided vanilla. You want a package? > > You > > install /packagename/ nothing more, nothing less. I really would > > like > > to see simple vanilla packages for the next 10 years. > > > > The FreeBSD ports is already extremely complicated, do not make it > > even harder :( > > +1 for this! > > Miroslav Lachman > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.o > rg"