From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 20:23:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAD51065672 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB818FC18 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:23:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=mBwd4AtFsHf5FewwLWRYLHa6ZQCAo5ZBdB+t6HVexfI=; b=ns/AgMyDuLMtpcL8E1G+YmIkxsKWV2Jc5xWw6+zmS65g4pQUn3D5ydG8ZsjxWAPdPYLs+qCsSHnD7w+QVxDUCX0tbVCC2PcZ1nnkPjRpHxyKR18bqUx1DZeec8W9TGkB; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SjcIm-000429-Cg for freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:23:58 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1340742230-94480-94479/5/65; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:23:50 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org References: <4FE8E4A4.9070507@gmail.com> <20120626065732.GH41054@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120626092645.Horde.HytQbVNNcXdP6WQ1aMtjoMA@webmail.df.eu> <4FE96BA0.6040005@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120626103400.Horde.8frYBVNNcXdP6XP4ZP-0deA@webmail.df.eu> <20120626084433.GJ41054@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120626185048.GC2540@medusa.sysfault.org> <20120626194311.GG2540@medusa.sysfault.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:23:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20120626194311.GG2540@medusa.sysfault.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Port system "problems" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:23:59 -0000 On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:43:11 -0500, Marcus von Appen wrote: > That sound good to me and something I'd vote for, since it does not > split ports on a technical, but functional level into packages. Yes this is exactly what we're aiming for. Right now if someone installs FreeBSD and they pkg_add apache22 and php5 they can't even serve PHP because php5 doesn't install mod_php. Things like this are as frustrating for new users as it is for people trying to maintain many, many servers.