From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Mar 21 11:41:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A30D37B727 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dchance@valuedata.net) Received: from mail.midsouth.rr.com (mail.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.1]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2LIxYL29562; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:59:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mike ([24.95.125.205]) by mail.midsouth.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:59:36 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01c0b239$13181800$0200000a@mike> From: "Daryl Chance" To: Cc: References: <3AB8E402.51160B75@amx.dyn.dhs.org> <002e01c0b22b$da43fb00$0200000a@mike> <3AB8ED82.2D73F891@amx.dyn.dhs.org> Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA world crashing 4.2-RELEASE kernel ? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:59:36 -0600 Organization: ValueData, LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I may go about it wrong, but when I upgrade releases I do this: make buildworld make installworld reboot config cd ../../conf/ make depend && make && make install && reboot the gist, I think you need to build the world before the kernal....that *might* be your problem, I don't know :). HTH, - Daryl Chance | And which parallel universe did ValueData, LLC | YOU crawl out of? Memphis, TN | - http://www.thinkgeek.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathieu" To: "Daryl Chance" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA world crashing 4.2-RELEASE kernel ? > Interesting.. I didn't know -O2 could do that. :p > > But I don't think I compiled with any optimisations, nothing in my > make.conf, nothing in my kernel config file. What I did to upgrade was > CVSup, Backuping /etc, make buildkernel, make buildworld, make > installkernel, reboot, make installworld, reboot, mergemaster, reboot ! > And then it worked fine for 24 hours ! Did I foget something ? > > Daryl Chance wrote: > > > > Are you compiling with any optimizations? I had a problem similar > > to this in that ssh, ftp, apache were running, and I could connect > > on my internal network....but connections from the outside (like me > > trying to connect to it from work) would either make it seem the > > machine was "locked down". you could ping and see that it was > > alive, but you couldn't get in through SSH or anything else. I > > traced it down to a compile I did with kernal optimizations (-02), > > so I turned that off, rebuilt the kernal, rebooted and all was fine. > > > > - > > Daryl Chance | And which parallel universe did > > ValueData, LLC | YOU crawl out of? > > Memphis, TN | - http://www.thinkgeek.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mathieu" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:25 AM > > Subject: 4.3-BETA world crashing 4.2-RELEASE kernel ? > > > > > Hello ! > > > > > > First, sorry I don't speak English very well :p Usually speak French ! > > > > > > I have a problem with a FreeBSD server that is far far away, so I don't > > > have access to the console. As far as I know, it worked fine with > > > 4.2-RELEASE for... hmm, 2 days, then I upgraded it to the latest STABLE > > > (4.3-BETA), and the server worked fine for 24 hours or so, but then, the > > > server locked up. It was still answering to pings, but all daemons > > > weren't responding anymore. I could still telnet to it, but I was just > > > not getting the login prompt, same thing for Apache, FTP, SSH... I can > > > connect, but no answers. > > > > > > I asked to reboot it many time. And each time, I can telnet to it, and > > > get the login prompt (!), but that's strange... seems it can't fork a > > > shell... I don't even get the motd, just the "Last login from..." thing. > > > But sometime SendMail is working, and I could send mail to the account > > > previously created on the machine. But all the servers always die in > > > something like, 5 minutes.. Then it still answers to pings, but just no > > > answers from Telnet/Apache/FTP, etc... :( > > > > > > However, the technicians there were able to do a make world in single > > > user mode, worked fine. But in multi user mode, the server seems to > > > consume all his ressources, and then processes start to crash randomly, > > > and there is also files corrumption, and always some kind of error > > > messages like "Cannot kill process", things like that, they don't know > > > what's causing this. > > > > > > Of course, technicians there want to bill me 100$ to reinstall > > > 4.2-RELEASE.. hehehe :p But luckily, I've backuped a 4.2-RELEASE kernel > > > in the root. So, now, the computer does exactly the same thing with the > > > 4.2 kernel, exactly. But those technicians still says that the problem > > > came from the 4.3-BETA environnement (hmm, the "world" !), not the > > > kernel, nor the hardware, so they have to "repair" what I've broken ($). > > > :( > > > > > > So, is it safe to say that the world is indenpendent of the hardware so > > > this problem should reproduce on all 4.3 system around the planet > > > (Hehehe, personnaly, it works fine on my computer ! :p), or could this > > > really be a bug NOT in the FreeBSD kernel that causes the machine to die > > > in 5 minutes or so in multi user mode (even will it is idle !) ? > > > > > > Thanks ! And sorry for this long long long e-mail :p > > > > > > I've attached a DMESG from 4.2-RELEASE, sorry... I don't have a more > > > recent one. > > > > > > -- > > > Mathieu > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message