From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 17 16:06:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27787 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cc.dixie.edu (cc.dixie.edu [144.38.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA27771 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kerby@bengali.npl.com) Received: from [38.241.82.72] by cc.dixie.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/18Jan96-0134PM) id AA09597; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:09:13 -0600 Message-Id: <00a301bd9a44$aef9c4e0$4852f126@kellogg> Reply-To: "Kerby Smith" From: "Kerby Smith" To: Subject: Re: A first encounter with 'vi' Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:30:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org heh, i was just kinda in awe of this conversation... kinda agreeing with Tim, cause i personally use pico on the shell accounts i have (only cause i dont know how to use vi), but i do agree that it is smart to know it. im totally new to FreeBSD, so dont listen to me lol, but i went to change my user info on one of my shell accounts, and was shocked when i typed chsh and it threw me into vi. heh, i didnt even know how to get out of it. so i do with i knew it, and i kinda plan on learning it. just thought id throw that in! kerby :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerby Smith kerby@bengali.npl.com I am Guilty of Murder... Blame me for the death of Jesus Christ, because it was for my sins that he was tortured and crucified! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gerchmez To: Malartre Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 11:11 PM Subject: Re: A first encounter with 'vi' >At 09:29 PM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>Argh, Tim you are closed minded. > >Gee, thanks. Just because I can't stand Vi and don't want to teach myself >how to write a 500 page novel using it, I'm closed minded. Hmm, OK, >whatever you say. > >>I'm newbie. I dont think un*x is the solution for a newbie. > >I'm a newbie to Unix, but not a newbie to computing. I've been into >computers for 15 years, and put in enough hours in those 15 years in front >of computers to make it more like 30 years. I've also been programming in >one form or another for those past 15 years too. So although you may think >my opinion is closed-minded, I certainly have earned the right to have it. > >>But if you want to know un*x, know basic tools common to unix. >>Vi is one of the most important, because if someday you go on another >>un*x-clone, vi will be there. > >So will something else, believe me, unless Unix wants to stay back in the >1960's... in which case, I would never use it. Vi is a throwback to an >earlier era where the computer didn't do the text editing, a dumb terminal >did it, and sent the results back to the computer for processing afterwards. > >>Its a really good suggestion. > >So take it yourself - write me a 20 page essay on why you think I should >become proficient in Vi... using vi and nothing else to write it. You talk >big, prove it yourself. > > >-- >My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - >lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message