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Date:      08 Oct 2002 13:27:12 -0700
From:      swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen)
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen), chat@freeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Congrats to Brett Glass for new BSD history article
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> writes:

> The Berkeley portion was free. Methinks that, perhaps, you're 
> asserting "guilt by assocation." ;-)

Yes I am, following the lead of copyright law and common English.  If
only part of something is free, then that something is non-free.  You
(and DES) said "BSD was always free" which is very different than "the
Berkeley portion of BSD was always free".

Such over-reaching should be left to the GNU promoters.

I suspect that there were many portions of BSD for which one couldn't
possibly separate into Berkeley and AT&T portions, so that there were
portions which the two simply had joint ownership of.  Such portions
were licensed by AT&T and Berkeley under different licenses, and some
licensees had to pay license fees to use it, making BSD non-free for
most of it's existence and by no means "always free".

I see no need to spin the fact, sordid as it might seem to gnus.

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