From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 15:25:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D81416A4CF; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:25:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from VARK.homeunix.com (SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-FIFTY.MIT.EDU [18.95.6.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7E643D1F; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:25:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from VARK.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VARK.homeunix.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8EFOTUB042752; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by VARK.homeunix.com (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id i8EFOTiG042751; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:24:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:24:29 -0400 From: David Schultz To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20040914152429.GA42691@VARK.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Poul-Henning Kamp , "M. Warner Losh" , seanc@FreeBSD.ORG, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20040914.000712.57271340.imp@bsdimp.com> <93999.1095143257@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <93999.1095143257@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: seanc@FreeBSD.ORG cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG cc: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/rc.d Makefile ntpd rpcbind X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:25:19 -0000 On Tue, Sep 14, 2004, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20040914.000712.57271340.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: > >In message: <200409140301.i8E31cvR099301@repoman.freebsd.org> > > Sean Chittenden writes: > >: ntpdate's use has been depreciated by the ntpd > >: authors for quite some time so this change shouldn't be unexpected. > > > >Except that ntpdate is still useful, despite their views to the > >contrary. I really really really do not like this change. > > We should probably import the SNTP daemon which OpenBSD has written > and use that for lightweight use. I talked to Henning about it at > SUCON'04 and what I heard made sense for the lightweight segment. The OpenBSD code is of sufficiently higher quality (particularly with respect to secure programming practices) that I would support a long-term goal of switching to the OpenBSD code entirely. Unfortunately, there are still numerous missing features that need to be added before that can happen.