From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jun 15 12:17:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from freedom.cybertouch.org (freedom.cybertouch.org [216.183.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139CA15649; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@cybertouch.org) Received: from wired (wired.cybertouch.org [216.183.4.3]) by freedom.cybertouch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA16693; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906151917.PAA16693@freedom.cybertouch.org> From: "Lanny Baron" To: webmaster@freebsdmall.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, core@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:17:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Tekmetrics tests and FreeBSD Certification Reply-To: lnb@cybertouch.org In-reply-to: References: <5475.929433334@critter.freebsd.dk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Certification, once standardized, in my humble opinion, in addition to instilling in the person doing hiring or contracting for services, confidence in the person he/she may be thinking of using, certification gives the person holding that certification a better chance to get that job or contract. I constantly look for jobs here and in the news paper, in at least 8/10 cases, certification of some type is required. As I was just looking for career oriented schools, I found a few that offered Sun and Cisco certification. Unfortunately they were more designed for the *already* employed IT person. As anyone in the FreeBSD community knows, FreeBSD is an outstanding OS. Unfortunately major companies look like they are going or leaning towards a Linux Distribution. My personal feeling is that the FreeBSD community (maybe its core team) should come up with some sort of FreeBSD certification. For one thing, it would then have that (for a lack of better words and not to undercut FreeBSD or its designers) professional and corporate image that it needs. When I say "needs", I am only meaning that in the sense that large corps use systems comparable to FreeBSD and for a large part do not know of the existence of FreeBSD. My g/f is v.p. of one of Canada's largest private financial institutions. I had talked to one of the system administrators. He never heard of FreeBSD, however he did hear of linux. He comments were that Linux is a great unix-like toy for kids. Great for kids doing their anger trips. Personally I have no comment on linux as I don't use it. But I do know some of the great people tied in with FreeBSD like, Greg Lehey and Jordan Hubbard. Well this is too long winded. Sorry about that. To whom this does concern, please develop a certification for FreeBSD. It will pay off big time for both, FreeBSD and the person that gets certified by FreeBSD as a competent ..maybe "systems administrator or Network administrator" Regards to all, Lanny > On 15-Jun-99 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > I don't belive in "Certified Doughnut Handler" kind of certifications, > > they're mostly bogus, in a few select cases they're really bogus. > > > > I don't like the concept that the FreeBSD project should be backing > > such certification or test in any way. > > I agree. > > John > --- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." > -- H. L. Mencken > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message