From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 1 14:52:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA01608 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:52:09 -0800 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA01600 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:52:05 -0800 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00628; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:50:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199511012250.PAA00628@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: More nits To: nate@rocky.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:50:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199511012244.PAA15761@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Nov 1, 95 03:44:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2330 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > [ > Moving the installation of the boot manager to a different spot on the > install menu > ] > > Terry, notice *what* the subject is. It's not about changing how things > are done, but *when* things are done. :) That would be "Re: More nits". Your bracketed text paraphrase was not part of the original text Jordan posted about: > > > > > I think you're right. Hmmm. I will have it ask you when you leave > > > > > the editor, 'k? What do the others think? And the partition editor is fdisk. > > > Excuse me?! What does adding a boot manager have to do with logical > > > volume device mapping? > > > > It has to do with what the hell belongs in a partitioning tool, and > > writing a boot manager is one of the things that damn well doesn't. > > That's where your *wrong*. There is no other place to put it. It is > something that is *directly* related to the partition, because the MBR > tells the *PC-HW* what partition to boot from. This is writing the partition table, not the MBR code. > [ Irrelevant ranting about fdisk and devfs deleted ] > > Since *NONE* of this stuff is relevant until *after* FreeBSD is booted, > how is at all related to the partition menu? The MBR stuff is necessary > for the PC hardware, and once FreeBSD is running it's no longer an > issue. So now FreeBSD is not running when the install takes place? BZZZZZZZT. > > > Terry's off in space again!! :-) > > > > Hardly. It's Jordan who wants to jam a PC specific, single logical > > layer specific *wart* into the nice, clean, system independent fdisk > > interface that would otherwise work for AIX, SunOS, OSF/1, and other > > OS's so we can *FINALLY* abstract the idiotic, limited, BIOS geometry > > dependent DOS partition crap. > > Huh? Moving where he installs the MBR to a different spot on the menu > is hardly adding a *wart* to the slice API. Making it a default prompt after editing the partitions in fdisk would be. > Sit back and breathe a bit and think about what's being said, and forget > a little bit about what you want down. They are unrelated, so long > posts about what you want that have *nothing* to do with what is being > said only confuse. Ditto. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.