From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Jan 17 0: 3:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3318437B405; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g0H838U29790; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:03:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:03:08 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Robert Watson , Joerg Wunsch , arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man Makefile man.c src/etc/mtree BSD.local.dist BSD.usr.dist BSD.x11-4.dist BSD.x11.dist Message-ID: <20020117100308.B27310@sunbay.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 04:09:37PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > (I am bcc:-ing this to cvs-committers and cvs-all, with the idea > that this discussion is also going on in freebsd-arch and thus we > could drop it from those two cvs lists...) > > At 3:00 PM -0500 1/16/02, Robert Watson wrote: > >I'm happy with the behavior being available and turned off by default, > >but personally my feeling is that the performance/correctness tradeoff > >leans towards correctness given the risk. And to be honest, people > >don't usually benchmark systems based on the time it takes to render > >a man page. :-) > > But it is one of those things that will make the system "seem slower" > to them, in day-to-day use. > > I think the security issue is a good enough reason to turn off the > current behavior of 'man', but I do wish there was some middle-ground > option which was between 'zero cat pages on disk' and 'automatically > generate all cat pages for all existing man pages'. > periodic.conf(5)'s weekly_catman_enable=YES seens to be a good option here, no? > In my case, I have about a dozen man pages that I reference a lot, and > a lot of man pages that I never reference. If something could keep > track of which pages were actually referenced a lot, then some system > daemon could generate cat-versions of just those man pages. > catpages take less space than manpages, so I don't see a reson to fine grain this. For tonight's -CURRENT: du -skc /usr/share/man/man* | tail -1 7800 total du -skc /usr/share/man/cat* | tail -1 6599 total Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message