From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 12 21:17:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82083B3 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D83D1DE0 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k13so882039iea.32 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:17:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=On5ExRZWjB8jiOIUek1b7ZLa4YrVkMjJ6ZdAwHKGy+o=; b=zIEI+VrDFcQlNjHEZmHudfpRHl7KaVgn1GpGMMXPdnJS+9HCcTbq+/QpaX5tb9KHKd gHxIKULXXGHNa2U49LhwbbQ5FDnjeq6XpxVlgin73zgdArjtv0XzIZCTJDypgesZMKc0 ewbPI7DWWxdqS1PGJHgD+lzlzfx1t569Uj4bpiryn40iKbrwn/+hC7sO0SSXSTLco4pl lfFqFd+LDImOS1vwuA6RmXiBBinp6bB4++XVHzqE/zHz1odffTdQARhLGsC/GQqeKBnN 4If5XAL7xq8vXfRynSXKWB7ZaqtB0Ik+8aG6SFpr9ZJdmJ4zseg5QIsLS/KGs9XwWyDq Q3Fw== X-Received: by 10.50.126.5 with SMTP id mu5mr146868igb.50.1365801470389; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a3sm151830igq.5.2013.04.12.14.17.49 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <516879F2.9050003@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:17:38 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: none References: <20130412105044.DGJ71030@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <447gk7aahp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20130412144341.0362e296@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130412144341.0362e296@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:17:51 -0000 On 4/12/2013 1:43 PM, Jerry wrote: > Really off-topic, but HAL is now deprecated on many modern systems. Why > is FreeBSD continuing to use it? It is being replaced by "udev". You > would think that FreeBSD-10 would be a perfect time to put HAL to bed > and take a more modern approach. > It's not the gnu hal/dbus/bloat, it's an Atheros hardware abstraction layer. It's not really that much different than using VFS for file systems instead of going straight to disk.