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[50.253.99.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b88sm5804567itd.21.2017.03.20.14.59.36 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: mandoc 1.14 on FreeBSD 11.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_29167A96-71EF-4F1A-9658-D41BE49E1AC9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20170320215324.67dgut6svvow4o53@ivaldir.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:59:35 -0600 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: References: <20170320215324.67dgut6svvow4o53@ivaldir.net> To: Baptiste Daroussin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:59:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_29167A96-71EF-4F1A-9658-D41BE49E1AC9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Baptiste Daroussin = wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > mandoc 1.14 has introduced a new database format (removing the = requirement for > sqlite). FreeBSD 11.x is having right mandoc 1.13, Given the database = format is > a technical detail (aka new format will be generated anyway = automatically and > seamlessly replacing the old database). I think it does not fall into = POLA. For > such reason I'm planing to upgrade to the 1.14 series (current already = have it). >=20 > If that is a matter for you to change that database format please tell = me. > Otherwise in 2 weeks I will import 1.14 in 11-STABLE in order we have = it in > 11.1-R I tend to agree with our analysis, but have a couple of questions that = will help us know what=E2=80=99s the right thing to do. First, this is 100% independent of the kernel, so we don=E2=80=99t have = any =E2=80=98forward / back=E2=80=99 issues with that, correct? Next, If I reinstall an older version of FreeBSD, it will create the = database that=E2=80=99s appropriate for 1.13, and vice versa, so it = shouldn=E2=80=99t be visible to the user. What happens if I upgrade and then add/delete packages, including = upgrade, add packages, downgraded? Is there a dependence on which pkg version you are using? If the answers to these questions are approximately =E2=80=9Cyes=E2=80=9D,= =E2=80=9Cshouldn=E2=80=99t matter / does the right thing=E2=80=9D, = =E2=80=9Cwon=E2=80=99t be an issue because recreation sets the right = format and installworld will update the database with the right things = as part of that=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cdoesn=E2=80=99t matter=E2=80=9D = then I=E2=80=99d agree that this is an uninteresting detail and need not = be preserved. 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