From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 19 08:33:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 864843B5; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail143c7.megamailservers.com (mail745.megamailservers.com [69.49.98.55]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F38824E2; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:33:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: hurds.sasktel.net Received: from [192.168.0.33] (ip70-187-145-241.oc.oc.cox.net [70.187.145.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail143c7.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s6J8WviF001605; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 04:33:01 -0400 Message-ID: <53CA2D39.6000204@sasktel.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 01:32:57 -0700 From: Stephen Hurd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad , Matt Bettinger Subject: Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ? References: <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6.1_pre20140112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.53CA2D3E.0072, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.1 cv=cZDr8BzM c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=qWhSLQ/2FgUpSQgLv9E1tw==:117 a=qWhSLQ/2FgUpSQgLv9E1tw==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=BDKbP5mgAAAA:8 a=zNQZm9IoAq8A:10 a=cQ5pcHtl6RgA:10 a=YxfxW3ofkq8A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=uhPMnebkAAAA:8 a=E3f3JUB3-kdayd4SlykA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:43:06 +0000 Cc: =?UTF-8?B?R2Vycml0IEvDvGhu?= , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Gleb Smirnoff , FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:33:26 -0000 krad wrote: > that is true and I have not problem using man pages, however thats not the > way most of the world work and search engines arent exactly new either. We > should be trying to engage more people not less, and part of that is > reaching out. One of FreeBSD's historic strengths has been the handbook and generally good quality documentation. There is no way that the FreeBSD project can ensure that all Google results for everyone in the world are FreeBSD related "good" documentation, but it can ensure that the documentation included with FreeBSD is accurate and usable, and it can ensure that the FreeBSD documentation is available via the internet. Aside from blindly following whatever generates the most Google results (an obviously broken solution), what exactly can the FreeBSD project do to ensure that when someone "Googles" a problem they will end up with a correct FreeBSD solution?