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Date:      Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:18:12 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Open Systems Networking <opsys@mail.webspan.net>
To:        phil grainger <freebsd@pronet.net.au>
Cc:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Complimentary article on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.980611090725.23816B-100000@orion.webspan.net>
In-Reply-To: <Version.32.19980611152619.00fa4c00@m1.gdr.net.au>

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On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, phil grainger wrote:

> this actually highlights a major problem with the freebsd project,
> these apple guys are cvsing their rapsody product of freebsd cvs sites
> all our work in making freebsd stable, fast, reliable and user friendly is
> going into apples coffers, don't forget apple is 20%+ owned by microsoft.
> even when we win, we loose.
> linux is looking better and better all the time ...

HUSH! less the dark penguin be summoned from the depths of hell.

> maybe someone in the freebsd organisation should put a submittion to apple
> to commit some resources ????

Core has already been in contact with the apple folks. I have a feeling
they worked something out. We may not get a massive re-investment like a
GUI or anything :) But apple did come forward to approach core. So who
knows what was discussed. It would only make sense that if they wanted
help and maybe some extra code fromt eh people who WROTE this OS that
apple would try and give back a little in good will.
Course apple also could have just said, uh were taking your OS and just
wanted to say thanks, and if you expect anything back you can take a long
walk off a short peir :) Either way are you really thinking of leaving the
greatest OS of all time because people USE the code?


> the right thing

Thats the nature of the BSD license beast. Your forgetting that everyone
who writes code for BSD is doing this not for profit, not for glory, but
mostly for *FUN*. Even Paul vixie who is taking his product commericial
thinks the GPL is *EVIL*. Having a reference implementation like FreeBSD
is the REASON why there are other OS's and products like bind, etc..
Almost every OS in the freeworld is using a BSD network stack.
The reason? The source is available with NO strings attached. Ever wonder
why no one is using a MS stack? :) besides the fact it sucks and no one
with half a brain cell would. Its because its closed, doesnt work, and is
not open to scrutiny. God bless reference implementations! Besides as paul
pointed out he gets quite a charge knowing his software is being used in
major vendors products.

Chris

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