From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Dec 12 23:46:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E04E89726 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22e.google.com (mail-ua0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D38AE793F3; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id i92so413442uad.7; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:46:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=jgCWTvqJSLlLXY4NmCkLYwckqJKH2OgMCeDQvJXFTYU=; b=NXjQvAd6iaAefL9+eHkhpToLxfcQHIqAUl7tkmkcMCvELJgxUdr1MyUS+8Yp/wXYxL DAWpOuHehZun4p3jetM7LTkzvSA+xFDBKEHoHCZvBuquWXOQ12NOKacrSwbgF2Pajjwn 4BvIxeru1vBXMKGVRVAjbVWOyQUsPwn0GhrqbH7Ug9llI1cIbBsBqsjHwcR3KqJjPD5G TzX6DfUCiToNFppG76L4/p5xr0q4FVh3IINy7fqbnf73e6S3+4HNiKKxljcj8hcsZwPX kP4DWYXkDUHMGYpfkMfLkuDaw8yiqlD0G9EcVzTqhSZ84YncuAxvbEGz1hMfPO3FLKyI HXdg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jgCWTvqJSLlLXY4NmCkLYwckqJKH2OgMCeDQvJXFTYU=; b=q08qiKCa/3GOLHAaGt8XhjRuYTQIDzEzkAYwE6Cz/yIF8c4cH4z00VCyd7gOYHYSlJ AeKm4lwmJoS5tcX+kbHPAmLpCOBnBHaFX5o6xYW7yD/McDaesKut7Pgxi/AczW0+0k60 D4d3m61mMiYLVIntoqKb0H71bmRKewpgROvWupHzRy9DQkeBCa3fGWwDwhBNMey7EM34 X6NPllQcQsxu3yxzL0dg4UrdGTiUkWXYuOoTTEJbdwKt3hAertMM613DxgTcoX+/hva5 K6GXWzR1HWJz8CfnOFzsC/xWyo+so0jCBSfVGCfRZiBWt8pcG5yyz130GvdQptrccWMF QqLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mK8PoK4QmWYHKE3cGNmvm5gGBLJ5tXx39YKut81tC0I9NicXK4b /zzI/Q9bCahvX8ANs5u6+G9mzbqkCgNFP7vhNx7U0dO4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotYNcfmBY0VRYpoXsOv5CJTUunQ1jn9fqj1DBsdYkhVEnHeulyLyp8ryUYwhnVa83TBt599nUGM/e2vDbdN7bk= X-Received: by 10.176.8.71 with SMTP id b7mr5872920uaf.168.1513122393538; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:46:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.147.156 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:46:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Kevin Oberman Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:46:33 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yVVHygwiF5J3XyWg7RV-H6xOZYg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Poll: should man(1)'s default pager change to "less -s"? To: Alan Somers Cc: Chris H , Steve Kargl , FreeBSD CURRENT , Jamie Landeg-Jones , by@meetlost.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:46:35 -0000 On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Alan Somers wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Chris H wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:27:37 -0800 "Kevin Oberman" >> said >> >> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Chris H wrote: >>> >>> > On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:15:10 -0800 >>> said >>> > >>> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:03:54AM -0700, Alan Somers wrote: >>> >> > Should man(1)'s default pager change to "less -s"? Vote and flame >>> at >>> >> the >>> >> > Phabricator link below. >>> >> > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/V7 >>> >> > >>> >> Does not work. >>> >> >>> >> Unhandled Exception ("AphrontMalformedRequestException") >>> >> Your browser did not submit a "phcid" cookie with client state >>> >> information in the request. Check that cookies are enabled. >>> >> If this problem persists, you may need to clear your cookies. >>> >> >>> >> Of course, I don't have an account on https://reviews.freebsd.org/ >>> >> >>> > Hah! I got the same (alarming) feedback too. I then tried to just log >>> in, >>> > and it worked. Guess you'll need, or create an account? :-) >>> > >>> > --Chris >>> > >>> > >>> >> -- >>> >> Steve >>> >> >>> > >>> I have not used those ancient, very limited pagers for years, but I am >>> sure >>> that almost nobody has even heard of the much more powerful >>> sysutils/most. >>> >> Ooo... I may have voted too soon. :-O >> Thanks for the pointer, Kevin! >> >> --Chris >> > > most looks pretty cool. The only probably I noticed in my brief > inspection was that it doesn't support the Home and End keys. > Having started with most(1) in days before we had and (VT220s), my fingers are trained for t (top) and b (bottom). Adding support for those keys should be pretty trivial. I'll drop the author a note asking if they might be added for 5.1. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683