Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 06:43:37 +0300 From: Vladimir Kondratyev <vladimir@kondratyev.su> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: RFC: removing ndis(4) Message-ID: <8c1d4dbd-5265-78d4-7d79-9d64f08f7aa4@kondratyev.su> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-Vmon7bnfJgMtPpQF0_DtzkR=a-v=m4tcazVBD5YHEsyJe4Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <20201203001247.GF18452@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <178622db-7dcd-fcae-743c-883711121733@kondratyev.su> <CAJ-Vmon7bnfJgMtPpQF0_DtzkR=a-v=m4tcazVBD5YHEsyJe4Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On 03.12.2020 06:32, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:28, Vladimir Kondratyev <vladimir@kondratyev.su> wrote: >> >> On 03.12.2020 03:12, Brooks Davis wrote: >>> I'd like to propose that we remove the ndis(4) driver prior to FreeBSD >>> 13. It was a clever idea in the early 2000's when the market was >>> flooded with 10/100 NICs with Windows-only drivers, but that hasn't been >>> the case for ages and the driver has had no meaningful maintenance in >>> ages[0]. I'd be a bit surprised if it worked at all today (it surely >>> won't work with modern Windows drivers). >>> >>> To try to examine the popularity of ndis, I checked dmesgd.nycbug.org >>> and there are 5 total entries with the most recent being 2007. >>> >>> The PC Card attachments are currently marked for deletion prior to >>> FreeBSD 13. >>> >>> Unless there is surprising outcry I plan to add (and MFC) deprecation >>> notices in about a week's time and remove the driver shortly thereafter. >>> >>> -- Brooks >>> >>> [0] I noticed today that part of the ndis 802.11 ioctl handler has been >>> broken since 2005. >> >> ndis(4) was functional at least in 2015 and at that time it was the only >> way to utilize BCM's wi-fi built in my "Asus EEEPC" > > Everything has moved onto new NDIS APIs that we don't support. > BCM4313 devices still have a Win-XP driver. No one tried to delete it all-over-the-internet.
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