From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 12 08:12:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0903E106564A; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.vnode.se (mail.vnode.se [62.119.52.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767758FC0C; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.vnode.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vnode.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8759EE3F07B; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vnode.se Received: from mail.vnode.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.vnode.se (mail.vnode.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30SFhK1t1yLf; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from goofy01.vnodelab.local (unknown [212.247.52.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.vnode.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37968E3F079; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:39 +0100 From: Joel Dahl To: Gonzalo Nemmi Message-ID: <20120212081239.GH85504@goofy01.vnodelab.local> References: <4F34FA17.7080000@quip.cz> <20120210133629.Horde.uDX6B5jmRSRPNQ9NDdkRUI4@webmail.leidinger.net> <201202102037.30996.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120211080731.GD85504@goofy01.vnodelab.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Warren Block , Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Chris Rees , Eitan Adler , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Wojciech A. Koszek" Subject: Re: Enhancing the user experience with tcsh X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:12:47 -0000 On 12-02-2012 4:05, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Joel Dahl wrote: > > On 10-02-2012  9:03, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> Picking a random person to reply to. > >> > >> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please > >> remember a few things: > >> > >> - Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc > >> - Many users will get annoyed by what is someone else's amazing setup > > > > With the above in mind, I suggest we change as little as possible from what > > we have today (for now) and that we do improvements in small steps. > > > > I believe 99.99% of all users would find the change below to be a definite > > improvement over the current default values in .cshrc: > > > > Index: dot.cshrc > > =================================================================== > > --- dot.cshrc   (revision 231507) > > +++ dot.cshrc   (working copy) > > @@ -24,8 +24,10 @@ > >        # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up > >        set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# " > >        set filec > > -       set history = 100 > > -       set savehist = 100 > > +       set history = 1000 > > +       set savehist = (1000 merge) > > +       set autolist > > +       set autoexpand > >        set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) > >        if ( $?tcsh ) then > >                bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word > > > > Also, a comment pointing to /usr/share/examples/tcsh/complete.tcsh would > > be a nice addition to the default .cshrc. > > > > -- > > Joel > > Joel, with all due respect, do you really think that 99.9% of all > users will not find the _non_intrusive_ additions below useful? You're missing the point. We need to start with something small that we all can agree on. We'll never reach consensus if we're trying to change too much at once (just check the amount of messages this topic has created already). -- Joel