From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 17:47:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CD91065673 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yar.tikhiy@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244508FC16 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yar.tikhiy@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2290608fgg.35 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:47:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=M4hvTLVGOeAxiA7AoW/m98P4WSYAL5UE47RwtdlMCIQ=; b=VXO+sd1z0NfOzKc4IjQyJfFR54JIVYHqgouR8Yn5nsDR8jEiJJce8oJLkrNfvZT19/LnGVLmgPtXwbYNcxQ470bu/PFgHduaxRk1QZNJUvjsBVEWHTY2jWmx2AtU0zWErkxtqvomLxhc6fO+txjJNrujYdt9KEPBJQkot+ACzZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=RUic1nR6Ox5rSOiWcKGoufeZ9Fk4GA2yLEUcenZeZ9pTQZuYSLbHNhq0bg9sg34PYUESr2AixwGfb+CfCg5w43cTsZShzSNA1dejOdk+8Fl5Uq66RKj/nn1a5P/777+hdhDwc9a3ChljTgaHmCObAWZoh4kYCDCnMm9zDd1ewm0= Received: by 10.82.159.2 with SMTP id h2mr19759753bue.33.1207072048504; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.145.1 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:47:28 +0400 From: "Yar Tikhiy" Sender: yar.tikhiy@gmail.com To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <874paly52l.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803311028.m2VASAxD097068@repoman.freebsd.org> <47F13951.2080907@FreeBSD.org> <87hcema76s.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20080401084946.GI44028@submonkey.net> <47F1FF48.1090009@micom.mng.net> <32266.194.74.82.3.1207048683.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <874paly52l.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 656c905233d91bf1 Cc: Ganbold Tsagaankhuu , remko@elvandar.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , Ganbold , Ceri Davies Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles fortunes X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:47:31 -0000 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:18:03 +0200 (CEST), "Remko Lodder" wrote: > >>> Other than perhaps the grammar, I find it impossible to imagine how > >>> anyone could be offended by, for example, this one: > >>> > >>> Strive to the pass of high mountain > >>> Cross in the shallow side of the wide ocean > >>> Do not give up because of distance > >>> Will certainly reach if walks > >>> Do not discourage of human > >>> Shall overcome if you try > >> > >> Above quote was changed to: > >> > >> Ascend to the high mountain pass, > >> Cross the shallow side of the wide ocean. > >> Do not give up to the great distance: > >> It's by going that you will reach your aim. > >> Be not discouraged by human frailty: > >> You will overcome it if you try to. > > > > > I dont understand the change this is not offending at all in my > > believing. Please do not change quotes of people, perhaps they > > weren't the best people around, but they are quotes, and quotes are > > not to be changed by anyone. > > > > if they are too "hard" or something, they should either be removed, or > > let them stay, but not changed. (unless it's an obvious typo, that > > isn't in the original quote ofcourse). > > There are two sorts of changes in that commit. Grammar and translation > fixes by Ganbold (who is a native speaker of the language) and the > removal of some militant quotes. He's preparing a backout patch, so > please let's not waste anymore time on this :-/ All objections to this commit stemmed from people's not knowing that it was from Ganbold that the quotes came into the fortunes file. I don't think Ganbold should be bothered with any back-outs here, but the final decision is up to you as his mentor. I'd rather we forget the half-baked quotes committed a year ago and consider this commit by Ganbold as introducing new quotes from Chinghis Khan we all are happy to learn. Nobody but Ganbold knows Mongolian here, so he is the ultimate judge in this case anyway. -- Yar