From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 14 4:44:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06B737B400 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (user38.net339.fl.sprint-hsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063E843E6A for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:44:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bilver.wjv.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7EBihOo077590 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:44:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7EBihmF077589 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:44:42 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A but in Zoo Message-ID: <20020814114442.GA77130@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:02:26 +0200 > From: > Subject: RE: Bug in Zoo? Or is it in ls or ffs? > Is this not a bug in ls or ffs as well then? > Regardless of what Zoo does, should not the OS remain sane? > - -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Burke [mailto:mburke@isn.net] > On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 10:43, Danny Carroll wrote: > > As you can see the size is not taken up in disk space so I suspect the > > bug is in ls. DU, DF and the left hand column of LS looks OK. > > --output-- > Looks like you're getting a sparse file -- a large file that actually > takes up little space. It's created by a program seeking beyond the end > of the file but not writing anything (I may be off a bit, but this is > how I understand it). The reported size of the file is large, but it > doesn't take up that much space, which is why df suggests that it's not > significant. > Although I've never used zoo, it's probably a bug there. Hm. I've been using zoo since about 1989 - the old 1.x days. I've always had it on a system here as I had many old files I'd pull apart. I've used it dating back to Sys V.2's and I use it for working under MS things too. It works for easily transporting files from a multitude of OSes. I just checked on about 6 systems I have access to, 4.6, 4.5, 4.2 and a 4.0, and they all exhibit the same behaviour. I don't know when it changed, but the sources to zoo have not changed since the early 1990s, and the sources when extracted all show a day of May 1, 1993. So I'm suspecting that something changed in the 4.x series. I don't have anything prior to 4.x to check on. I've not created any zoo archives in the past couple of years but it used to work, and I've used it on many platforms. Since the code is the same and has not changed since Rahul Dhesi wrote the last version in 1991 - would it not stand to reason then that something has changed in FreeBSD since the 4.x came out. Could someone who has a pre 4.x system check this? Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message