From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jan 16 07:09:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21476 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:09:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21470 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marko@uk.radan.com) Received: from [158.152.75.22] (helo=uk.radan.com) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 101XLE-0000Uu-00; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:08:49 +0000 Organisation: Radan Computational Ltd., Bath, UK. Phone: +44-1225-320320 Fax: +44-1225-320311 Received: from beavis.uk.radan.com (beavis [193.114.228.122]) by uk.radan.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA01814; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:05:55 GMT Received: from uk.radan.com (rasnt-1) by beavis.uk.radan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17832; Sat, 16 Jan 99 15:05:51 GMT Message-Id: <36A0AA7F.8BEB975C@uk.radan.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:04:31 +0000 From: Mark Ovens X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What are the advantages of ELF kernels? References: <199901150819.TAA06812@ska.bsn> <369F692C.C3D452C6@softweyr.com> <369F8803.81DB0359@uk.radan.com> <369FA811.A675DA24@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wes Peters wrote: > > Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > > I have two desktop machines, a SPARCstation 5 and a PII 266 running > > > FreeBSD. I still prefer the SPARCstation because it has a better > > > keyboard, but prefer FreeBSD to Slowlaris for everything else. Plus, > > > the FreeBSD machine is a LOT faster than the SPARC 5. ;^) > > > > I'll agree with the observation about the keyboard. Sun do a converter > > to allow you to use a PC keyboard with a Sun, shame they don't they do > > one that does the opposite :-(. > > > > FWIW, my K6-233 with FreeBSD 2.2.8 is lot faster than my Sparc10 (SunOS > > 4.1.3_U1), bith with 64MB. Mind you it's not a fair comparison, what was > > a top of the range PC when Sparc 5 & 10 were top Sun workstations?. > > That's the comparison you'd have to make. > > My home system is a K6/233, and it's a nice quick little beast too. It's > faster at some things than the PII/266, and slower at others. It also > has a very nice keyboard made by NMB, say 95% as good as the Sun Type 5, > but I can't find a local dealer that stocks them anymore. > > > BTW, as you're a Sun and FreeBSD user, do you know if it's possible to > > map the function keys in FreeBSD to perform the functions of L2 - L10 > > (don't really need L1 ;-) ) on a Sun Keyboard? > > In what? Most window managers will let you bind keystrokes to actions, > and it's certainly easy to do in Emacs. ;^) > In OpenLook (olvwm). I particularly want the Cut, Copy, Paste keys (quicker than using the pop-up menu in shelltool). The Open and Front keys would be nice too. I know there are escape sequences to perform the actions of these 2 keys but not as toggles, i.e. you need a separate keys for Front and Back. I've tried several ways of making the bindings without success, even though there are entries for ``Sun Copy'' etc in the keysym table. > -- > Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? > > Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 > Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com -- Trust the computer industry to shorten Year 2000 to Y2K. It was this thinking that caused the problem in the first place. My homepage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, | mailto:marko@uk.radan.com Radan Computational Ltd | http://www.radan.com Bath, England. CAD/CAM solutions | FreeBSD - The Power To Serve for the Sheetmetal Work industry.| http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message