From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 02:21:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2001065694 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-127.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-127.bluehost.com [67.222.38.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA5C78FC23 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 9791 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2008 02:21:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 02:21:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=cn5ASGm7wBicl18U5XD3U1ti1buzdR4dFU9CFeMJC1OcWZVgf5XZqlugvclShgYkgKCAaRsg4FyKKLvGcONjoSCxO0F4zDbtjAzOfk+PvZPSOgs9D5Fc1RGw9fZpHzSt; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LC35o-0003mH-V9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:21:57 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:21:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:21:31 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081215022131.GB5527@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081207093713.O5433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081211203121.L1372@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081211195504.GA15968@kokopelli.hydra> <200812111447.15299.perlcat@alltel.net> <1229218767.18610.39.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1229218767.18610.39.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:21:57 -0000 --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:39:26AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: >=20 > Hence why I tend to send really green unix newbies to linux school than > grind their teeth on FreeBSD straight up. Let em get their skills and > experience in how *nix in general works on something a little easier > (for MIB lovers: noisy cricket), then move up to the big guns. Why not send them to something like DesktopBSD or PC-BSD, or even FreeSBIE (if that project is still around)? If they go to some chintzy user-obsequious Linux distribution like PCLinuxOS first, they'll just have more stuff to unlearn *if* it ever occurs to them to give some BSD Unix variant a try -- and if they haven't been poisoned against BSD Unix systems by GNU/FSF propaganda in the meantime. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Edward Murphy, Jr. (Murphy's Law): "If there's more than one way to do a job and one of those ways will end in disaster, then someone will do it that way." --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklFvysACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUq5wCg9xxoY05b7SNyvlOl281d5M4c HbMAn2HiDWJi+22lpp28xOTLaukVOG71 =2zpC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t--