From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 19:20:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6909816A4CE; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:20:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.criticalmagic.com (saturn.criticalmagic.com [64.74.124.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3444D43D2F; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:20:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rcoleman@criticalmagic.com) Received: from [10.40.30.144] (borg.ciphertrust.com [64.238.118.66]) by saturn.criticalmagic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2755D3BD10; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41741764.4040304@criticalmagic.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:20:04 -0400 From: Richard Coleman Organization: Critical Magic, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041008) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Sommers References: <4171F702.9020405@gamersimpact.com> <4173DD4F.1030501@criticalmagic.com> <20041018173043.GE5179@dragon.nuxi.com> <65010.208.4.77.15.1098122230.squirrel@208.4.77.15> In-Reply-To: <65010.208.4.77.15.1098122230.squirrel@208.4.77.15> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removal of /stand Directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:20:09 -0000 Ryan Sommers wrote: > David O'Brien said: > >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 11:12:15AM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote: >> >>> Of course, I still find it odd that tar and cpio are in /usr/bin, >>> but pax is in /bin. But that's a bikeshed for another day when >>> we are really bored. >> >> pax(1) can read (ie, restore from tape) both tar and cpio archives. >> So why litter /bin up with 3 programs when 1 will do? > > > I tend to agree. Adding bsdtar to the root filesystem would mean not > only bringing in bsdtar but also 2 more shared libraries > /usr/lib/libarchive.so and /usr/lib/libbz2.so. We can just bring gzip > into /bin and get all the functionality of cpio, bsdtar and pax > without adding 2 extra libraries. This also will allow us to not only > unarchive gzipped archives but also decompress single files, > something I don't think bsdtar -z can do. But I wouldn't be surprised if pax (and cpio) are eventually rewritten to use libarchive as well. So this issue my come up again. Tim has done such great work with libarchive, it really makes sense to do this. Of course, until someone actually does the work, it's just speculation. I'm just happy you are making the effort to do the cleanup. So take all this as just friendly discussion. It's all good. Richard Coleman rcoleman@criticalmagic.com