From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 04:09:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC11516A401 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368B713C4AC for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4462C9153; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D722DAA8D; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-179-097.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.179.97]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB92C1C330B; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l18NAQql075483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l18NAQcM007475; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l18NAQ0A007474; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, vistua@sdf.lonestar.org Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> In-Reply-To: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702090010.25836.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:09:51 -0000 --nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 8. February 2007 23:16, John Walthall wrote: > Ok, now an editorial: I should not really dignify this rant by replying to it, but: > We have a fundamental design difference from Linux here. We chose this > difference because we believed that it was better. Why would we go back > now because the developers of a third-party interface to our systems did > a clumsy job? KPPP is not an interface to 'our' systems. It's an interface to *pppd*, whi= ch=20 happens to be available for a wide range of Unices and Unix-like systems. > We should adjure them to implement the=20 > new and better system. This is not actually an appropriate place for > this discussion. It should be directed to porten@kde.org and/or > http://bugs.kde.org. Because it is a KDE problem and *not* a FreeBSD > Problem. (I have already submitted it to the KDE Bugzilla) A kernel panic/freeze triggered by a badly maintained driver is most certai= nly=20 not any application's problem. You should probably close that bug yourself. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFy63hXhc68WspdLARAvSHAJ9tgnKWQUEdCosROlnjhm5YjaWxMQCfV37S dQQVt+uRj8C68Zrb6ORTqp8= =6DXe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f--