Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:45:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" <karl@mcs.com> To: mark@quickweb.com (Mark Mayo) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDI 2.0 vs. FreeBSD 2.x Message-ID: <m0uVUJL-000IDOC@venus.mcs.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960616182236.22948A-100000@scooter.quickweb.com> from "Mark Mayo" at Jun 16, 96 06:32:33 pm
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> I know how much everyone (myself included) hates making comparisons > between OS's - but unlike the pointless Linux vs. FreeBSD debates, I find > myself wondering about this one... > > Unfortunately, I don't have the resources (hardware, time, or money ;-) > to do a comparison of BSDI and FreeBSD on the same machine, so I thought > I'd ask if anyone else out there in FreeBSD land has any experience with > BSDI and if so what their impressions are. > > The reason I ask is that I currently run several FreeBSD 2.1-stable > machines as web/realaudio/mail servers, and I swear by them. I've never > been so thoroughly impressed with an OS -- thanks to all involved. I know > from experience how much FreeBSD rocks Linux in a multi-user high load > environment, but I'm curious about BSDI's performance. The service > provider we're teamed with uses BSDI for shell machines, and they seem to > do VERY well (full news feed, 4000 users, named, etc. all running from a > 486...). He swears by BSDI, and now he's outgrown his 10-machine license > from BSDI. Upgrading would be VERY, VERY expensive. I of course told him > to ditch BSDI and try out FreeBSD. The BSDI folks are charging a lot for > their OS these days, and I'm not convinced they have anything over FreeBSD. > > What are your thoughts? Is BSDI really more stable than FreeBSD, and how > well does it perform? Any thought much appreciated!!! > > TIA, > -Mark We ran into the same situation. Our experience is borne out by the following: Cerebus up 2+19:40, 0 users, load 0.01, 0.43, 0.42 Mailbox up 5+08:00, 0 users, load 0.52, 0.51, 0.44 Mars up 15+18:43, 18 users, load 0.59, 0.54, 0.45 Mercury up 25+04:45, 22 users, load 0.27, 0.29, 0.31 Nfs1 up 154+14:05, 0 users, load 0.51, 0.46, 0.33 Nfs2 up 56+12:01, 0 users, load 0.50, 1.17, 1.31 Uucp1 up 75+01:24, 0 users, load 0.05, 0.05, 0.00 Venus up 56+11:38, 17 users, load 0.10, 0.14, 0.16 Vs-1 up 59+05:27, 0 users, load 1.19, 1.30, 1.27 Vs-2 up 16+04:38, 0 users, load 0.07, 0.29, 0.35 Vs-3 up 16+04:45, 0 users, load 1.94, 1.35, 1.18 These are BSDI machines. Cthulu up 22+06:28, 0 users, load 0.28, 0.11, 0.05 Jupiter up 33+23:37, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 News1 up 18+02:29, 0 users, load 0.48, 0.32, 0.29 Nntp1 up 2+11:46, 0 users, load 0.21, 0.10, 0.03 Vs-4 up 77+09:29, 0 users, load 0.12, 0.08, 0.02 These are FreeBSD machines. VS-4, in particular, is extremely impressive. That system has over 100 virtual web servers on it, and has shown not a SINGLE problem since it was loaded. I'd use BSDI for NFS file service as of today (they still do that a little better) but for the other purposes, its a dead heat and I'd say that FreeBSD has to get a VERY close look. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | 21 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed!
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