Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:30:07 -0400 From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: "\@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com>, FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Wayland on FreeBSD Message-ID: <24223.11679.688616.192643@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20200421150741.28dd6309.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <CAFYkXjmfyLZAi1HZe-RE3wLxa6GRNP6GkmtZG-4T2puRDOz0JA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGLDxTX5EeL3YDUJocdOM03sRzUDi3ed9cKuNH99DieZbrhGHg@mail.gmail.com> <5058973.kMyvyFPq5o@amos> <CAB4989B-95E7-43B6-B338-B9524B9D9FDA@kreme.com> <20200421150741.28dd6309.freebsd@edvax.de>
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Polytropon writes:
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:18:51 -0600, @lbutlr wrote:
> > On 20 Apr 2020, at 02:24, Ihor Antonov <ngor@antonovs.family> wrote:
> > > But even in 10 years FreeBSD hackers will keep using rotting X11
> >
> > Perhaps. A tiny percentage. The rest will continue as they are now,
> > avoiding X11 at all costs because it is insecure bloat that
> > interferes with the desired operation of the machine.
>
> Depends. If Wayland can offer all features that X11 offers at
> the moment, there will probably be no major problem in transition.
Speaking only for myself (though I think there are a _lot_ of
folks who would agree): I have no particular loyalty to X. If there's
an alternative that's faster/more secure/easier to {install, maintain,
upgrade}/[other unspecified benefits] ... what the <bleep> are we
waiting for? Can I be a lab rat?
_If_.
What I _think_ I'm hearing is "Wayland is a better solution that
isn't ready yet. Not fully integrated with FreeBSD; not even ready in
the (current) Platonic ideal."
Am I wrong?
Also: if I understand the conversation, Wayland works OK when
client and server are the same machine, but not over a network?
Opportunistically,
Robert Huff
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